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the biggest profit center of the war perhaps even bigger than america is
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china the war solves all of china’s problems in one shot
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the war ensures that china gets very rich very quickly the war ensures that china completely
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gets away with kovid the war ensures that american allies and fence sitters
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countries like saudi arabia are joining the chinese camp and dumping the americans
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and the war ensures that the war ensures that every russian
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who gets cut off either by credit card companies or digital payment gateways will shift to
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china and therefore china weakened
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almost bankrupt becomes one big giant market
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for the chinese ladies and gentlemen to monopolize and the war also ensures
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that when china invades taiwan the west already exposed does not move an inch
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ukraine is the precedent the war also ensures further that the chinese yuan gets quickly
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internationalized which is what they wanted to do the war also ensures
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that the west is so focused in a defensive formation in europe
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that it forgets and actually can’t do much anymore about chinese expansionism in the south china
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sea and frankly on every front from human rights abuses in xinjiang to the
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expansion of its nuclear weapons the whole world focuses so much on russia
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that russia becomes the world’s villain and the chinese who were the villain till two months back become the good
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guys and we forget what this is about
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this is a chinese war and tonight let’s see what the chinese
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have to say about it that’s my debate one tonight ladies and gentlemen first of all very grateful for the feedback you’re
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giving to us tonight we bring you new angles and the truth every day
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china is the prophet center of the war and i’ll tell you how and debate number two tonight
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the position of saudi arabia and the new threats that russia is now giving to the
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scandinavian countries to norway to finland it’s just a sign
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that this is the beginning of the great american fall mark my words america has lost
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its super pardon completely and whatever was left of it evaporates
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because of this war your other headlines are saturday evening on the debate tonight [Music]
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russia officially warns finland and sweden that if they join nato there will be military retaliation putin is going
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all out moscow tells washington to be prepared
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for strike on any military aid inside ukraine
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russia gets closer to kiev is putin planning a final assault
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the silent gainer as ukraine is ravaged and russia faces sanctions global debate
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on china’s game plan france and germany begin to work the
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hotlines with putin as they desperately try to avert the inevitable
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and as the action shifts to the belarus border republic tv is live from belarus
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cameras capture the russian buildup
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[Music] and ladies and gentlemen the conflict in ukraine has put the
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focus on russia and on eastern europe and on the west but in the shadows of
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this war in the wake of the conflict in the middle of the disaster china is making major gains it is
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cutting deals it is raking in money it is replacing the west everywhere it
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is cementing its global position it is gaining more and more direct allies and tonight we dig deeper deeper here at
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republic and we ask is china the profit center of the war
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the real profit center let’s debate
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[Music] with every passing day
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we are only seeing how city after a city in ukraine is being
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pounded by russian bombs that are being dropped a thousand kilogram bomb that was dropped in a maternity
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hospital the tribute that is now being paid
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the ukrainian flag that is going to be laid on the mortal remains of the soldier
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what’s becoming even more difficult for the ukrainians is that they have to leave their own homeland a
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lot of women a lot of children are now leaving their homeland yesterday in its
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statement russia and ukraine had also suggested we can also see yes right behind me republic is story showing you
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russian army you can see russian army there are department areas these are
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pictures which we are showing you can see that v mark is there we are exclusively showing you these pictures from the border area this conveys can be
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clearly seen on the television screen v is there we can clearly see while we
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were reporting we have seen now this china may say it wants
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but is china the true profit center of the war being waged in ukraine
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today i’m announcing the united states is targeting the main artery of russia’s economy
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we’re banning all imports of russian oil and gas and energy that means russian oil will no longer be
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acceptable at u.s ports and the american people will deal another powerful blow to putin’s
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war machine the sanctions on russia have opened up the place for saudi arabia to become the top oil exporter china has
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just cracked a deal of 10 billion us dollars with saudi arabian company aramco and that will be developing a
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petrochemical and oil refinery complex in the north eastern city of penjan in
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china thereby securing the oil supplies china is smartly turning the crisis in
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russia into opportunity for itself it has been buying russian oil and gas on
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dirt cheap places and there have been reports that china has been urging to invest in the russian oil and gas
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companies the controversy over the bio weapons in
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ukraine has just come at a perfect time for china that had been facing rats from the world for kobed now the tables are
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turned for china and the fingers that were pointing towards china for the covert outbreak have now shifted focus
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to america
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the present crisis has given china an opportunity to internationalize yuan the
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russian companies and banks are now turning to u.n and china happens to be
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the biggest gainer of this situation women
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woman
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china is closely watching what’s happening in ukraine to draw its own strategy in terms to taiwan and this
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conflict happens to be a perfect feedback loop for the geostrategical movement for china from which it can
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learn and apply with taiwan taiwan [Applause]
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germany
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the role of the chinese in this is uh is variance very significant but it’s still
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i think unfolding and it’s not clear probably even to the chinese at this
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moment china has been filling the russian void in the west and the western void in russia and this war seems to be
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an ultimate win-win situation for china which has been the biggest beneficiary
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of this war
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i’d first like to go across to gary clyde hoffwar who’s a non-resident senior fellow at
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the peterson institute for international economics he’s joining us from new mexico in the u.s
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gary do you believe that the immediate beneficiary of what is happening
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in russia is china because the more i study it i get a feeling that on every front geostrategically in terms of
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economics trade digital payments positioning china is is really profiting from this
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war
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can you just unmute your audio please gary can you just unmute your audio gary
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because i’m i’m not hearing you clearly i think you muted your audio yeah
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the immediate beneficiary are the middle eastern countries
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and uh metal producing countries such as canada australia
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indonesia uh because the prices of these products have
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soared but the longer term beneficiary as you have indicated
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will be china now right now china benefits because
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russia will sell oil to it at a discount oil and gas
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because russia has lost many markets for oil and gas and it will
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mark down the prices that china pays by at least 10 percent possibly 20
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percent and as well china will take over the credit card business
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banking transfers consumer goods and so forth in russia
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so over the next five years yes china will benefit quite a bit
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and that was what the chief economic adviser uh to uh president zielinski mr oleg
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said the other day at our institute uh yes so that’s the longer term but right
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now the soaring oil nickel palladium platinum
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all those prices are benefiting other countries
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uh gary didn’t the west you know plan this out because obviously there’s going to be no vacuum
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and so wouldn’t would in the west know wouldn’t the west know gary
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i’ll repeat the question would in the west know that if if american companies move out
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then chinese companies will naturally move in so wouldn’t wouldn’t or would the west
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not care about china gaining as long as it uh you know it it affects russia badly
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in the short term you are right
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but i do not think the american foreign policy establishment
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realized how many companies would withdraw from russia they weren’t
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forced to withdraw except by their reputations but they did withdraw and now the number of companies
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which have withdrawn is about 330 and most of those are american firms but
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a lot of european firms as well and that’s something of a surprise
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you are correct that china will fill this vacuum and it will
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in many products ranging from internet services alibaba and so
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forth uh basic semiconductors consumer goods
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uh all kinds of things china will um will fill the vacuum
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and also the yuan you know china has always wanted to china has always wanted
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to internationalize the u.n and uh and its currency and isn’t the conflict
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in ukraine just helping helping china gary in its goal to internationalize its
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currency which it has been trying since 2009 because all these russian companies
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and banks are now turning to china’s currency
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you are right the uh china china has an
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alternative a messaging system to swift the chinese system is called c
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i p s ships and uh
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and china has wanted as you said to have the rmb become an international
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currency and this conflict will further
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the use of ships and it will further the internationalization of the rmb
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certainly as far as russia is concerned the rmb will now be
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its reserve currency because dollars and euros have been
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frozen and may be seized as a result of this conflict so yes
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this will help china internationalize its financial system
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well gary it appears to me that that maybe the russians did not play out in
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their mind how far this would go and how badly they would be hit but
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i think the chinese have played out in their mind how they are going to benefit gary clyde thank you very much for
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joining me this is clearly china being the biggest beneficiary of the war gary
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clyde of the peterson institute thank you very much and ladies and gentlemen let’s debate victor gao how terrible you
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know you the more ukrainians die the more money you make the americans make money you make more money
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and you just continue to make the money and you plan this out you you you you plan this whole conspiracy this is a
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china russia operation and dan hamilton is with us senior fellow at brookings tatiana
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an assistant professor uh at at the university of south florida set
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cropsey is joining us tonight he’s a founder and president of the yorktown institute and he’s been deputy under secretary of
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the navy washington dc tonight adele nazarian of the gold institute for international strategy
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the fantastic professor mother mother of nalapat professor vladimir firakin his chair of regional studies and foreign
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policy envoy extraordinary at and as a member of risa and a member of bisa live from moscow and rafaello and
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pantucci will be joining us in some time from singapore victor let’s start with you and let’s get you
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to debate with dan to start with what you have to say and what others it’s my pleasure to say
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with due respect i completely disagree with the proposition of your questions
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why because it is true that china has very good relations with russia on one hand but china also has very good
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relations with ukraine i would say china probably is the biggest investor in
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ukraine in all sectors china ukrainian relations and friendship are deeply
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rooted so when you have a military operation or war breaking out in ukraine
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china loses there are so many chinese people living and working in ukraine there are lots of you friends living and
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working in china so we want to see peace restored in ukraine as quickly as
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possible it is true that the western sanctions against russia will be futile
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why because china and russia have a common border of 4700 kilometers it has
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been peaceful and mutually beneficial for more than three decades nothing if you don’t mind i’d like to
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interrupt victor if you don’t like i’d like to interrupt you and get your get you back on the track because allow me thank you
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so much victor see victor i’ll tell you my views okay and and don’t mind my being very direct with you you don’t you
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as in your country doesn’t care about ukraine doesn’t care about ukrainians dying
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doesn’t care about your economic losses in ukraine and and please don’t give me all that about you know chinese economic
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interest in ukraine ukraine is a tiny country it’s a tiny economy okay it’s a tiny economy it’s like one
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its economy is the size of one of the many many states in india it’s a small small country
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economically and therefore it doesn’t measure up so please don’t tell me you get affected badly the question is dan
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that china and dan i want to get very specific on it is the chinese conspiracy
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viewers and i want to tell you that just before just before putin went to beijing dan we
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all know winter olympics were starting there were 15 agreements china and
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russia quickly signed including massively on oil and natural gas
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this was signed it was signed just on the eve of the invasion
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and the whole world knows that we should talk about it dan the chinese need to be told about their role don’t they
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agree with the premise that there was a clearly a strategic partnership agreement signed
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before the olympics and clearly beijing didn’t want the olympics to be ruined by an invasion of ukraine
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um and i agree with your premise that a weakened russia will have really no
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question no no place to turn except to china but to me the question is actually
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what’s the issue for india because a week in russia turning to china helping china
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is not that good for india it’s so why does india abstain in this conflict
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and why doesn’t it be clear about its position because ukraine is not some distant place
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where india’s interests are not affected the ripple effects that you’re mentioning actually all come back to
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india and so i would argue that if you accept the proposition of your own question
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what can be done about it is for india to stand up uh for the basic interest that it says
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it believes in sovereignty right to choose your affiliations of the country
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the inviolability of borders human rights democracy all of that’s
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yeah mistake right now yeah uh and we see two other countries russia and china
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who question those principles uh so india really okay
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no you’re not lost you’re you’re avoiding the debate dan but i’ll i’ll let professor madhav nalapad respond to
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you i i just one line from my side and mother you can much more eloquently and
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give an intellectually more sound argument than i will but i just want to say one thing here one thing here i find the americans
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extremely uncomfortable when anyone asks them to take on china they’re very uncomfortable they say what are you
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doing why don’t you take on russia uh this passing the buck uh well i’ll tell you simply dan my answer to is we are
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going to look out for ourselves allow me to allow me to complete dan
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i’ll allow me to complete didn’t i wait till you finish so you know it would just be just please allow me to complete
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see i’ll tell you one thing then and again i’ll be very direct
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america can’t touch china that’s a reality where is dan
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as you know we fought with the chinese in galwan and gave them a bloody nose
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we have a fantastic fighting army we are one of the biggest economies in the in the world
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we are very very relevant you need us in this region we are going to play our cards well we’re going to defend ourselves build
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our military our economy and we won’t we won’t go this way or that we’ll see what happens you guys fight your war but at the end
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of the day i think it much bet would be much better if if if the west were to
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gather the courage to sanction china because the only way to actually hit back is to sanction
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china professor nalapa
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well uh i’d like to say that uh dan is probably not aware of the fact
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that indian territory and indian sovereignty has been affected multiple
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times by two countries pakistan and china pakistan as far back as 1947.
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china from the early 1950s and as you correctly said recently in 2020
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in galvan where 20 of our soldiers perished and i think quite a lot more of of chinese soldiers
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perished i wonder where dan was during those debates possibly he was not aware of the
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chinese intrusions possibly he’s not aware that large amounts of indian territory have now been uh occupied by
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pakistan and by china and yes you’re perfectly right and up if there are any
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sanctions on china for this kind of occupation of the world’s largest democracy sorry you know
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i’m afraid i’m too ignorant to have heard about them so please dan don’t give one yardstick for
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for one case and another yardstick for the other if you’ve got a yardstick it’s the same yard for everything i want to
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say arnab we are in the middle of cold war 2.0 between mainly the united states
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and china cold war 1.0 was between the ussr and the us and the problem with joe
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biden and the problem with many of these people is that they are confusing cold
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war 1.0 with cold war 2.0 or as you said they’re uncomfortable with cold war 2.0
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and they’re jumping back to cold war 1.0 with the difference that putin is not
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yeltsin he’s not garber show now i want to ask dan you know you intervened in
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iraq to remove saddam hussein good saddam hussein was a despot a dictator
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an evil man and what have you got you’ve got a government that is extremely close
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to iran i’m not sure that you regard iran as a friendly country you’ve got let me go to libya what has happened in
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libya after your intervention you saddam hussein were deep weaponized by you uh
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gaddafi was de-weaponized by you and then of course you it and what happened in libya have you
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got a government in libya that is friendly to the west and in fact the bulk of libya is controlled by
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individuals who are friendly to russia and china and the fact is
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sorry sorry to come in but while you’ve been speaking i’ve got a big breaking news input that’s come into our newsroom
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and this really shows how cornered america has become uh i’ve got this news coming in and
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professor vladimir furrikin from moscow can respond to that and the breaking news input
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is that zelensky says i want to meet putin professor vladimir furykin
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ukrainian president he is proposing a meeting
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do you hear me
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ukrainian president zelensky is proposing talks
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he wants to meet putin and he wants to meet him in jerusalem
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and zielinski has said that he has asked the israeli prime minister naftali bennett
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to act as an intermediary all of this is happening when the
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russian army is some 20 kilometers outside of kiev and the pressure is continuing to build
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what do you make of this latest uh bit of breaking news what do you make of it
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thank you arnab concretely to your question i would like
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to say that i doubt very much that mr putin will go now to jerusalem or
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anywhere anything abroad during due to the situation in ukraine
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and i very much doubt that he will meet where
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the president zielinski before the program of such a meeting and
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negotiations to follow can be fixed by experts by mr medinsky in
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belarus now who is talking with his ukrainian counterparts and
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uh by vice minister minister deputy minister for
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foreign affairs who is in contact with his ukrainian colleagues you know that
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recently the minister lavrov had said this is so weird
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um
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so set yeah i get that so set set cropsey from washington founder and president of the
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yorktown institute is this a sign of the russians getting the upper hand
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you know is this a sign of the russians getting the upper hand set
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no i the the important sign here is that
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russia expected putin expected that this would uh the invasion would go very quickly and he
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was severely wrong and russian losses have been much greater than he expected
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uh and so i i i don’t i agree one of your
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uh previous speakers here who uh who pointed out the
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the the the problems to india um that are uh
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not immediate but over the long term and that’s extremely important
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uh because whatever profit china derives now and
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that’s an open question it has not you have not answered it well because
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china has investments all over the world all over europe and these are people
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what’s up ukraine but if i may continue
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to the extent that china be that russia becomes dependent upon the chinese
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currency and to the extent that russia becomes dependent upon chinese energy
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that gives that makes russia um a dependency of china
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and if russia becomes a dependency of china then china’s attempt
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at hegemony over the eurasian continent increases and that’s a danger to india as it is to the rest of the world
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she said uh i’ll get i’ll get i’ll get professor vladimir to respond to this
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but but uh because you know he’s better place to respond to it but i’ll i’ll give you my view if i may and and i’ll
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get in tatiana on this uh both the speakers here constantly coming back on india i thought this discussion was on
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china but since you want to make it about india my position on this is as is professor madhav nalapad that you see we
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are already handling the china problem on a minute by minute day-to-day basis we have we have we have
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uh set hundreds of thousands of heavily armed troops and missiles and guns
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and and very heavy uh uh you know armory artillery long-range guns missiles as
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you know the indian military is very heavily loaded and we have it all placed along a very many thousand kilometer
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border right right from kashmir down to arunachal pradesh and i think we are
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doing a damn good job you see what happened is set the last time the chinese got adventurous in galwan we
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killed a lot of chinese soldiers in hand-to-hand combat so we are dealing with the chinese very strongly and
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effectively what happens in ukraine does not have any immediate consequence on india what
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you’re trying to project is china will become stronger that’s bad for you in the long term i understand it but you
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see this is our geography we know it well we handle china every day in the south china sea in the indian ocean
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or on our border so it’s not a new problem for us the problem tatsiyana is for the west
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and the west should understand west should understand that the profit center of the war is china
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and i personally think tatsuyana that the the west has given china a wonderful opportunity
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as our reporter was saying this is a beautiful feedback loop when the when the chinese go into taiwan
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they’ll just walk into taiwan what will you what will the west say then when they walk into taiwan will america say
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no no india should take a position on taiwan
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they’re going to walk into taiwan in a few weeks that’s i’m not will america come crying to india again you take a position military
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promise i’m talking about i’m not talking about india’s military tactical abilities
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i’m talking about the longer term picture of who controls the eurasian continent and a russian dependency upon
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china gives china the upper hand in controlling the entire eurasian continent from the black sea to the
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pacific ocean no but but but okay let me let me let
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can i counter that you see set let’s look at it very practically india’s large economy and our massive defense
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budget also sustains billions and billions of dollars of hundreds of billions of dollars of
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russian arms sales to india so russia needs india as well so you know there’s a balance there
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so india’s india is watching out for itself you know for here but tatsuya now why not talk about the china question
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why are all of you avoiding china profiting from this why don’t the americans talk openly
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about china profiting from this that’s yeah well uh i believe that uh
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that because the west did not [Music] impose preventive sanctions yes that did
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set the precedent for china to look at taiwan uh because looks like uh the west is
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responding very slowly to the situation in ukraine it is correct that the west is
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more unified as ever but um the reaction is very very slow and uh it takes uh uh weeks
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and maybe even months for the for russia to feel uh the
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pressure and russia is benefiting from high prices of oil right now and because the
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western countries are reacting slowly china is watching and it may think that
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if it moves on to taiwan the reaction will be similar
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and that is very unfortunate i agree that china is going to benefit in russia as
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well um and um right now it’s taking a new truck
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at the moment because it does trade with the western countries no it’s not taking a neutral stance that’s sienna that’s
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you know how no no one second one minute tatiana it’s not taking a neutral stand you know it i don’t understand adele you
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tell me why do americans why do americans get so cagey and worried and
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stressed out when anybody tells them about china i mean it’s okay it’s a reality america can’t take on china
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china is perhaps stronger than america but the reality is that china planned this whole thing you know they signed 15
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agreements on trade oil natural gas in fact putin took china’s permission on
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when to start the war and just as his uh as his tanks were beginning to roll in
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at that point of time china said okay we’ll take wheat from you so they’re financing
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china is bankrolling it getting commodities and oil very cheap and has time this attack why can’t why can’t
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america take any position on china well everybody
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awesome thank you thank you thank you i appreciate it first of all
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um i played mandarin chinese 15 years ago because i saw that china was going to be very important country on the
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global geopolitical scale of things and i i took a good bet and i guess i won so
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i want to say two words here supply chain right it’s not that the west is
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you know not not uh seeing china as uh as a critical player um it’s that i
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just want to remind everyone here there’s a reason that this war is different than the invasion in 2014.
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it’s because back then russia did not have china’s backing now it does and let’s remember ukraine has lithium
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correct china likes lithium like lithium a lot and also ukraine is leading exporter and
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key supplier of highly purified neon gas these are used to design circuits um
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silicon waste and creationists there’s been a growing dependency globally of course
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on china specifically with regards to the automobile industry we’ve seen prices of vehicles in america and
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germany and austria in britain’s source skyrocket both for leasing and buying
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and so um this you know i have to say that this is going to in turn china realizes and
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raised and it’s balancing right now the economic cost benefit analysis of the war that russia has waged with its
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backing on ukraine and it’s saying is it really going to be worse worth it long term because what’s going to happen is
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this is going to cause in my opinion a little bit of a of a trend towards deglobalization
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and countries like india the united states european nations that are so heavily reliant on china for
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manufacturing these goods that everyday citizens use and require
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they’re going to turn internally and start put you know reopening or opening new
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factory so they can start manufacturing their own supplies once again
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um and i want to also address the issue with taiwan as um the chinese premier said earlier
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he’s right taiwan is not ukraine and the reason being is that america has stated
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that it will support its nato allies taiwan is going to be easier than ukraine taiwan taiwan adele
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taiwan is going to be easier than ukraine i’ll i i’ll tell you i just can i can i come in here and i i want a view
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from mr pentucci rafael rafael rafael open to choose from the royal united services institute in
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singapore my assessment is that taiwan will be easier rafallo than
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than than than ukraine because this invasion in ukraine and the weak need
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response of the west has given china the perfect assessment of the west’s military abilities and it is ensured
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that china learns from russia’s chaotic invasion and knows exactly how to move troops in and how quickly when it
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decides to invade taiwan what do you think rafael
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two cases are very different i think that ukraine sadly is not a member of nato and so the west was not treaty
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bound to respond in any military way and so this is why the response that we’ve seen from western powers has been to try
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to provide weapons and support for the ukrainians without actually getting actively involved in the conflict with
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taiwan the united states has signed the taiwan relations act which congressionally mandates the us to
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defend taiwanese democracy so that would essentially be an act of war uh by the
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chinese against the united states which is not the same as what we’ve seen happen with russia in ukraine so i’m not
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entirely sure that china will draw the lessons from this or if china is drawing the lessons they’re during the wrong
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ones that this is in any way sort of a useful comparison for what they might want to do in taiwan that’s happening
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i’ll go through the conflict in taiwan would be very good at the time
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but but rafael you know the the the west cannot engage i mean okay let me just
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say first of all uh you know the the you mentioned the treaty the treaty only says that we need to provide material
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and services available so that taiwan can defend itself
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it does not say does it say viktor that if uh taiwan is to be attacked you’re meant to defend it
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there’s there is no obligation as far as i understand
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yeah victor from beijing responding to rafaela from singapore yes please yeah with due respect to our singaporean
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friend i would say he need to read the taiwan relations act very carefully first of all it is not a treaty between
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the united states and taiwan secondly it only stipulates that the united states
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will supply taiwan with weapons to enable it to defend itself now on your
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this very important platform allow me to say one thing the united states will not shed blood for the defense of taiwan why
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because it is not in the fundamental interest of the american people to allow american soldiers to die for the defense
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of taiwan taiwan and the chinese mainland are all belonging to china and
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people on both sides of the taiwan streets are all chinese why should the chinese lose sanity to fight each other
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ever since the beginning of the 1960s so works very well for you victor victor
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just think about it victor just think about it look at how convenient this is for you allow me please
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you’re very you’re a very very very uh you know erudite voice but allow me to just tell you see dan
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uh dan can you hear me then uh dan then just look at it my way
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the way i’m looking at it is uh until two months back the biggest villain in the world was china it had unleashed
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kovat it refused any investigation into the origins of the pandemic now putin becomes the bad guy of the world
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nobody’s talking about kovitt the shift is from bio labs of china to bio labs in ukraine
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the shift of focus of human rights abuses to the refugee crisis by russia nobody’s talking about xinjiang anymore
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right so so overall that’s not right that’s not right it’s overall absolutely not right
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not correct you don’t think so can i uh okay why don’t you ask me respond but you’re not
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letting me respond so um it’s absolutely not right we are just as focused on china and those issues in the
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indo-pacific as we are in uh in europe we’re facing the most destructive war in europe since world
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war ii so rightly we’re focused on what that means because i said before it has
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broader implications than just for europe the the atlantic and the indo-pacific theaters are interrelated
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these days the united states is both in atlantic and pacific power it doesn’t have the luxury of a choice of thinking
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about one thing at a time and it’s very focused on china and i think on the sanctions back to our earlier discussion
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you’re right that we haven’t gone the full measure yet i i agree actually with i think what was
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the presence of your original question on china which is should we impose secondary sanctions
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following the very tight sanctions that we’ve imposed on russia because at the moment
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china stands to benefit if we don’t impose the secondary sanctions that means that chinese firms other firms
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that deal with russia uh would also be penalized i think we’re heading that direction
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uh we’re just not there yet but that doesn’t mean we won’t be okay uh because the question will be you know how does
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china act is it trying to take advantage of this your premise is it is already doing that if it is it will also face uh
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response in the same manner okay i i i want i want i want victor to
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respond to that this is victor you heard that listen
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before i close yes victor okay let me remind him with due respect
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the united states is not god the united states does not represent the whole world if the united states
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impose it on many many other countries this will in itself be the end of the american
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hegemony now he need to reach history not for 10 years but for 500 years for 1
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000 years and he will know that his position will be humbled by the weight
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of history no one can support the united states as the superpower
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imposing its will on other countries now talking about india let me tell you how you are in
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india even with india with respect india knows how to handle its own
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foreign affairs if you do not know how to handle india’s in foreign affairs then you will corner the
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united states into a dilemma this is the true nature of the american
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foreign policy always imposing yourself i’ll just tell you here this is uh this is you know the only country one
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made the the only country you see what happens is what happens is professor victor and i’ll tell you
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because our civilization professor victor the indian civilization is far older and far richer than your rich
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civilization therefore the only country you cannot handle is india your sun tzu philosophy is working with russia and
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what did sanzu say you have to subdue the enemy without fighting at all
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that’s why you don’t have a fighting army victor we have a fighting army the russians have a fighting army but what
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you’re doing is the application of sun tzu’s art of war for a moment you have the upper hand
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you’re profiting from this war ladies and gentlemen very interesting out here i think you know all the american
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companies are going to be replaced by chinese companies in russia it’s going to happen in the next three to four
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months on the other side tonight zelensky is reaching out he says to putin come to jerusalem talk to me
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my bet here is putin won’t zelensky is doing this because putin’s got the upper hand
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how far will putin go this time how is the world reorganizing itself on the other side
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