Excerpts from the Clint Curtis interview:
congressional hearing speaker & Clint Curtis 00:00:42:12 00:01:03:04 Mr. Curtis, would you please state your full name for the record? [My] Name is Clinton Eugene Curtis. And where do you reside? Tallahassee, Florida. And what is your profession? I’m a computer programmer. …Mr. Curtis, are there programs that can be used to secretly fix elections?
congressional hearing speaker & Clint Curtis 00:00:42:12 00:01:03:04 Mr. Curtis, would you please state your full name for the record? {My] Name is Clinton Eugene Curtis. And where do you reside? Tallahassee, Florida. And what is your profession? I’m a computer programmer. …I’m a computer programmer. Mr. Curtis, are there programs that can be used to secretly fix elections?
Yes. How do you know that’s to be the case? Because in October of 2000, I wrote a prototype for…Congressman Tom Feeney at the company I worked for in Florida that did just that. And when you say you did just that, it would rig an election. It would flip the vote 51-49 if whoever you wanted… and whichever race you wanted to win.
congressional hearing speaker & Clint Curtis 00:01:03:11 00:01:26:23 Yes. How do you know that’s to be the case? Because in October of 2000, I wrote a prototype for…Congressman Tom Feeney at the company I worked for in Florida that did just that. And when you say you did just that, it would rig an election. It would flip the vote 51-49 if whoever you wanted… and whichever race you wanted to win.
And with that program that you designed for something that elections officials … never see.. Again, would you answer that question once again? Clint Curtis-They would never see it. Speaker-So how would… a secret program that, fixes the election? How could it be detected.
congressional hearing speaker & Clint Curtis 00:01:26:25 00:01:50:26 And with that program that you designed for something that elections officials … never see.. Again, would you answer that question once again? Clint Curtis-They would never see it. Speaker-So how would… a secret program that, fixes the election? How could it be detected.
You would have to view it either in the source code, or you have to have a receipt and then count the hard paper against the actual photo. Other than that, you won’t see it
congressional hearing speaker & Clint Curtis 00:01:50:28 00:02:15:12 You would have to view it either in the source code, or you have to have a receipt and then count the hard paper against the actual photo. Other than that, you won’t see it. All right, Mr. Curtis. If you had been asked you or others with your professional expertise have been asked to design a protected program to that would protect the Ohio elections from against against such software.
Speaker-Could you design a program or a procedure or a protocol that would have protected Ohio against this kind of rigging? Clint Curtis-No. You have to look at the source code. You have to get probably programmers from both or all parties to look at the source code and determine if there’s anything in there that shouldn’t be there.
congressional hearing speaker & Clint Curtis 00:02:15:14 00:02:41:12 To fix the election. Could you have done so? If we’ve been asked to make a program that could fix the election, I’m sure anybody can do it. No. Could you design a program or a procedure or a protocol that would have protected Ohio against this kind of rigging? No. You have to look at the source code. You have to get probably programmers from both or all parties to look at the source code and determine if there’s anything in there that shouldn’t be there.
Given the availability of such vote rigging software and the testimony that has been given under oath of substantial statistical anomalies and gross differences between exit polling data and the actual tabulated results, do you have an opinion whether or not Ohio election, the Ohio election, presidential election was hacked?
congressional hearing speaker & Clint Curtis 00:03:05:11 00:03:39:22 Correct? …Given the availability of such vote rigging software and the testimony that has been given under oath of substantial statistical anomalies and gross differences between exit polling data and the actual tabulated results, do you have an opinion whether or not Ohio election, the Ohio election, presidential election was hacked?
Yes, I would say it was. … if you have… polling data that is significantly off from the vote,…
congressional hearing speaker & Clint Curtis 00:03:39:24 00:04:02:15 Yes, I would say it was. … if you have… polling data that is significantly off from the vote,…
Opportunity to hear…that the mainstream media is not allowing access…that I and Joe Vichot…the chairman of the Lehigh County Republican Committee. He’s vitally interested in ways to assure that the upcoming election is is a clean one.
Attorney Bob Rust 00:04:52:16 00:05:24:11 that we’re going to be discussing this morning to give the people the opportunity to hear that, that the mainstream media is not allowing access to these folks. So it’s within that context this morning that I and Joe Vichot, who is, with us, he is the chairman of the Lehigh County Republican Committee. He’s vitally interested in ways to assure that the upcoming election is is a clean one.
His name is Clyde Curtis.
Attorney Bob Rust 00:05:24:13 00:05:56:15 ,,,His name is Clyde Curtis….
I was a programmer … in 2000. Since then, I’m an attorney…but basically that I’d been for 20 plus years trying to tell people that they should not be using these electronic machines because they simply can’t trust them and they’re not allowed to look at them.
Attorney Clint Curtis 00:06:03:06 00:06:31:03 …I was a programmer … in 2000. Since then, I’m an attorney…but basically that I’d been for 20 plus years trying to tell people that they should not be using these electronic machines because they simply can’t trust them and they’re not allowed to look at them.
So I wrote a prototype for the electronic voting machines back in 2000.. there was a algorithm inserted that would allow the person who…to flip it,…
Attorney Clint Curtis 00:06:31:05 00:07:06:27 ….So I wrote a prototype for the electronic voting machines back in 2000.. there was a algorithm inserted that would allow the person who…to flip it,…
You can do the same thing with any computer, any tabulator… it’s gonna basically elect whoever you want to elect and flip the logs and flip the ballots and flip everything behind it.
Attorney Clint Curtis 00:07:07:00 00:07:23:07 You can do the same thing with any computer, any tabulator… it’s gonna basically elect whoever you want to elect and flip the logs and flip the ballots and flip everything behind it.
what happens is that if it’s a computer program, the programmer controls it. I am the god of this universe. So unless you can get something away from that, that can check it, you have no hope of beating the programmer because he won’t know what you’re looking for…
Attorney Clint Curtis 00:07:29:01 00:07:51:25…what happens is that if it’s a computer program, the programmer controls it. I am the god of this universe. So unless you can get something away from that, that can check it, you have no hope of beating the programmer because he won’t know what you’re looking for. So can you.
When people say, oh, you can look at the logs there are really no logs on computers. There’s only what the programmer puts in for a log. You can write those logs. Nothing is automatic. If I don’t write it, it didn’t exist. If I do write it and I want to change it, I change it. If I make a ballot image and I want a different ballot image, I’m the one making the ballot image.
Attorney Clint Curtis 00:07:51:28 00:08:16:04 When people say, oh, you can look at the logs there are really no logs on computers. There’s only what the programmer puts in for a log. You can write those logs. Nothing is automatic. If I don’t write it, it didn’t exist. If I do write it and I want to change it, I change it. If I make a ballot image and I want a different ballot image, I’m the one making the ballot image.
You just have to get the vote away from the computer.
Attorney Clint Curtis 00:08:33:02 00:08:38:19 …You just have to get the vote away from the computer.
You’re an attorney, but …I understand that you’ve got quite a, knowledge experience in the whole technology area.
Attorney Bob Rust 00:08:38:21 00:08:59:10…You’re an attorney, but …I understand that you’ve got quite a, knowledge experience in the whole technology area.
Programmer. I work for NASA, D.O.T., all of the big companies, Exxon Mobil…… Anything that you can think of, I can make it happen within the programing sphere. …I was basically a prototype.
Attorney Clint Curtis 00:09:01:17 00:09:22:23 Programmer. I work for NASA, D.O.T., all of the big companies, Exxon Mobil Reiter ?word?, basically, if there was something that you could dream, I could make it happen. Wasn’t a problem, right? Anything that you can think of, I can make it happen within the programing sphere. So that’s essentially what it was. I was basically a prototype.
wrote the electronic document management system for the entire state of Florida….this was cutting edge stuff, you know, 20 years ago. …
Attorney Clint Curtis 00:09:43:28 00:10:11:05 DOT …wrote the electronic document management system for the entire state of Florida….this was cutting edge stuff, you know, 20 years ago. …
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