The following are excerpts from the Georgia Attorney Garland Favorito: Transcript (Appendix)
Background
My background is as an IT guy…a computer programmer systems analysis… data administration as … things on the internet.
online banking systems……cyber protection of their accounts and their identity and their transactions.
So that…ties into the voting system, cyber security world…as a volunteer in regard to election integrity, I’ve spent the last, 20 years focusing on, the voting, systems technology and election integrity, procedures and trying to make, elections more, provable, accurate and transparent for the voters of the state of Georgia…. founded VOTERGA.org, which stands for voters Organized for Trusted Election results. Back in 2006… a nonpartisan organization…. we’ve led the election integrity movement in Georgia for, the last 18 years. So that’s… my background and.
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GF’s response to those who call him an “election denier” and “conspiracy theorist,”:
“Attorney Garland Favorito 00:05:13:19 00:05:38:13 Well, the same persons that are saying that have admitted that we have, gotten, influence… and respect from the Georgia General Assembly as well as the state election board, and even the governor to some degree…
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:05:38:13 00:06:08:10 …if that’s true, then why is it that the General Assembly is listening to us now? Why is the state election board listening to us? Just look at …What we have accomplished, we’re now recognized as the leaders, in implementing election integrity procedures since 2020, in order to help protect the 2024 election.
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Victimization #1: Voters victimized in 2020 election: Zuckerberg’s drop boxes
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:06:41:21 00:07:17:11 …background, Robert, just, let’s go back…about what happened in 2020 and how we were victimized….victimized…from private money …the story, CTCL, Center for Technology Civic Life…founded by Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook fame, he’s put $330 million into this organization, which I believe was essentially to buy the 2020 election.
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:07:17:13 00:07:55:25 Michael Gableman’s report. It is excellent on this. That’s up on our voter GA studies tab. He was the former chief justice of Wisconsin. And he has documented this extremely well. But as of the, that, $330 million, which, was routed, 45 million that came in to Georgia. And again, before I get into Georgia, the policy director there was David Plouffe, who was a former Obama campaign manager, and he wrote the book, A Citizen’s Guide to Beating Donald Trump.
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:07:55:27 00:08:38:29 So this is the alleged, nonpartisan organization that, Mark Zuckerberg established, which I believe was created to buy the 2020 election. So, we got $45 million of that Zuckerberg money….and then, the installing, unsecure outdoor drop boxes and then offering free services to counties to control the voting systems and their counties, all of which would have, is interfering in the election.
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:08:39:01 00:09:07:03 So in, in, Georgia for that, $45 million was spent 94% on counties that Joe Biden won. That’s a violation of the equal protection and rights, of all Georgia voters. And it happened in Pennsylvania be the same thing where we have not only the state and both the federal constitutions, but these were also violations of equal protection rights.
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Victimization #2: ballot trafficking operation
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:09:07:06 00:09:40:12 So that’s the first way we were victimized. The next way we were victimized was through, ballot trafficking operation, … folks have seen the 2000 mules’ video. … there were people operating. They call them mules operating in the middle of the night, stuffing ballots from midnight to six AM.
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:09:40:15 00:10:04:26 …We had a video of a ballot staffer who fanned the ballots in front of his, his face and took a picture, with the camera, obviously, to get paid with them and then stuffed them into a ballot box.
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:10:04:26 00:10:34:06 So, we were victimized in that way. We found…counterfeit ballots… there was a presidential audit, there were Mail-In ballots that were not folded from being mailed. They were not, written with a writing instrument. They appeared to be ink, toner copy. They were on different paper stocks, and they were voted the same way for dozens of ballots, in a row, all ballot races down.
QR Coded Voting system voters can’t read: Proprietary
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:11:00:22 00:11:32:07 In in Georgia, we have … a QR coded voting system…So the votes are, accumulated out of a QR code that you as a voter cannot read… because it’s proprietary, and you have no way of knowing what the votes were accumulated for your ballot, because what you see in the text is not what is in the QR code.
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:11:32:10 00:11:56:01 …the voting system, was found to be in violation of two Georgia statutes by the United States District Court before the election was conducted. ….but it was too late to make a change…
Process violations
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:11:56:03 00:12:22:07 … finally, we had the process violations, that you see in the State Farm arena, that, video where there appears to be double scanning of ballots… We have since found that about 3 or 4000 votes were double counted.
So that’s kind of the litany of problems that we were trying to solve.
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:12:22:09 00:12:52:15 And, in Georgia since 2020…we’ve worked really hard in the legislature over the last, four years. And…we’ve made some major accomplishments…the legislature has banned all outdoor drop boxes.
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:12:52:17 00:13:20:20 They are just totally unsecure….the video surveillance was destroyed, and and, the counties wanted thousands of dollars for it….
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Banned all direct and indirect money going into counties from private sources: No more Zucker bucks
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:13:20:22 00:13:50:21 So that was a huge, improvement. The legislature also banned all direct and indirect money going into counties from private sources. No more Zucker bucks in this election. ..
Protect voters against the ballot stuffing operations: security paper, visible watermarks
.they’ve taken several steps, to, improve, and protect voters against the ballot stuffing operations. Now, all ballots will be conducted on security paper.
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:13:50:23 00:14:18:22 That, is, with visible watermarks. So that security paper cannot be, easily, reproduced….People copy ballots. We know…that a thousand ballots were copied in Chatham County and, duplicated down there for the 2020 election. And I’m sure that’s not the only county. So, they’ve implemented security paper.
All ballots that are received prior to elections, they have to be tabulated by election night
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:14:18:27 00:14:51:05 Another interesting feature is… all ballots that are received prior to elections, they have to be tabulated by election night. So they can’t just keep on counting ballots for days like they did in 2020, as well as same as here as in Pennsylvania.
Made…ballots public record …verify the election results… improved chain of custody of the handling of the absentee ballots
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:14:51:08 00:15:23:01 … those results change the outcome of the election. …made ballot, ballots public record …. verify the election results. … improved chain of custody of the handling of the absentee ballots. … constituent driven bill …
Legislature has banned the QR code…in Georgia,…not be implemented in time for 2024
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:15:23:03 00:16:01:29 The legislature has banned the QR code,,, Here in Georgia, that will not be implemented in time for 2024. But, and I think I’m glad that because that would have required a patch of the systems, which we did not really want to patch.. We want to get rid of them. So that’s, that sends a message to all the other states that if this QR code voting is not, adequate for Georgia voters, then why should it be adequate for Pennsylvania voters, for example, even though y’all do not use that statewide?
Those are some of the changes. …We have a whole list. There were 15 provisions, in total, that have been passed by the legislature
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:16:02:02 00:16:30:12 That’s so those are some of the changes. There’s probably more that I am forgetting. We have a whole list. There were 15 provisions, in total, that have been passed by the legislature. And then …the state election board has put in some additional rules. We have, this QR coded, errors(?) that occurs and that shows that ballots have not been counted.
Proposed two rules that, reconciled the number of ballots cast on the tabulator tape with the number of ballots cast on the scanner
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:16:30:15 00:16:57:10 We put in I proposed two rules that, reconciled the number of ballots cast on the tabulator tape with the number of ballots cast on the scanner, and those were passed. That’ll be, may they were made into, actual rules. And they’ll be in effect for the 2024 election. So if we had this, ballot rejection problem, that we will be able to catch that.
Electronic voting machines not count properly
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:16:57:10 00:17:27:16 And that’s the same problem that the Tennessee secretary of State found and chose to remove the same system that we’re using here statewide, which is the Dominion Democracy (?) Suite 5.5 system that’s already been found to not count properly in Tennessee. And that’s been removed up there. So, those are just some of the things that have been, happening here in Georgia to try to improve the 2024 election that I know that was a little bit long.
The similarities in Pennsylvania
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:17:43:25 00:18:05:06 Yes. Again, thank you, Garland, for coming on and explaining what’s going on going on in Georgia. And let’s see how we can, the similarities in Pennsylvania. ..
New election reform Act that passed in 2021,drop boxes, and, and reconciliation issues…banning of them being outdoor
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:18:05:06 00:18:52:08 Was a breakdown of the, of the new election reform Act that passed in 2021. … drop boxes, and, and reconciliation issues…banning of them being outdoor, we have, in Lehigh County and again, in Pennsylvania, the difference is every county gets to run their election the way they want to do it, as long as it adheres to the basic, election code, the law, the state law that it gives a huge latitude, when it comes to Drop boxes
Counties don’t use them…those were Republican counties… disadvantaged because the Democrats take advantage of Drop boxes
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:18:52:10 00:19:17:18 and so many states, counties don’t use them at all. ,,,those were Republican counties. …we’re a bit disadvantaged because the Democrats take advantage of Drop boxes. I noticed that in that reformat, that was great. In Fulton County, they had over 38 Drop boxes in 2020, and now they’re down to only eight. So that’s outstanding.
One of the issues [with drop boxes]…harvesting of the ballots
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:19:37:15 00:20:04:12 …one of the issues…harvesting of the ballots …
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:20:04:15 00:20:26:28 We actually, in 2021 did an investigation. We reviewed the, the footage of that Dropbox after the election,…we found someone…He fanned them out….because he probably was getting paid for it.
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:20:27:00 00:20:55:10 … The district attorney… did not press charges,…I did talk in front of the state Senate on that issue, and we had a lawsuit here in Lehigh County. ….
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Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:20:55:13 00:21:23:04 …we did get stricter information…it’s still being done…It doesn’t resolve the problem before the election… once the election is done, as we found in 2020, it’s impossible to do anything about it.
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:21:23:06 00:21:52:25 …especially a presidential election…..I wanted to ask you about,…the fake ballots and the double counting, in Lehigh County? My only issue with Mail-In balloting is, well, one of the main issues for me… is the reconciliation, part of it.
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:21:52:25 00:22:18:27 … election board. Let’s have a the reconciliation…I don’t feel comfortable with…reconciling the number of people who returned to Mail in ballot (MIB). So the number of ballots that actually get scanned into the system and being counted, I don’t see that happening. …did you have any investigation on that in Georgia?
How can we get our election boards to make sure they certify that reconciliation between the MIB ballot voter and the mail in ballot being scanned is exact?
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:22:18:29 00:22:34:29 …How can we get our election boards to make sure they certify that reconciliation between the MIB ballot voter and the mail in ballot being scanned is exact?
The most important problem to solve in Pennsylvania. …that statewide…when they certified the election in 2020, there were 123,000,… more, ballots than voters who voted. So that’s, huge, huge issue
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:22:35:02 00:23:06:28 …the most important problem to solve in Pennsylvania. …my understanding is that statewide…when they certified the election in 2020, there were 123,000,… more, ballots than voters who voted. So that’s, huge, huge issue.
…Good reconciliation procedures in Georgia…reconciling the number of voters who voted, to the number of ballots cast. …even still today, there is still …about 80,000 more ballots that were cast in 2020 than voters who voted
.Attorney Garland Favorito 00:23:07:00 00:23:35:21 We have pretty good reconciliation procedures in Georgia in terms of reconciling the number of voters who voted, to the number of ballots cast. My understanding is that even still today, there is still if you add up all the counties, there’s still about 80,000 more. Ballots that were cast in 2020 than voters who voted.
..One of the greatest concerns that I would have…. an out of state, in regards to the reconciliation process…we are running federal elections. So if Pennsylvania’s, election results don’t add up and they’re not reconciled, that could impact people in Georgia and Texas and other, other areas of the country.
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:23:35:23 00:24:06:10 …one of the greatest concerns that I would have…. an out of state, in regards to the reconciliation process…we are running federal elections. So if Pennsylvania’s, election results don’t add up and they’re not reconciled, that could impact people in Georgia and Texas and other, other areas of the country.
Because, those extra votes could dilute not only the Pennsylvania voters votes, but it could even end up diluting, votes around the country in the federal races. So it that’s a major problem
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:24:06:12 00:24:55:16 Because, those extra votes could dilute not only the Pennsylvania voters votes, but it could even end up diluting, votes around the country in the federal races. So it that’s a major problem.
…The state and the elections Commission need to take some action in terms of, legislation…state election, commission rules…ensure that the counties are actually, reconciling their information correctly, their voters who voted in ballots cast
…the state and the elections Commission need to take some action in terms of, legislation…state election, commission rules…ensure that the counties are actually, reconciling their information correctly, their voters who voted in ballots cast.
Otherwise you have to go down…to the individual, election boards and try to convince them that…They need to make that rule and reconcile, of their own account and not wait for a state law. But it’s just common sense that the number of ballots cast should equal the number of voters who voted.
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:24:55:18 00:25:20:04 Otherwise you have to go down…to the individual, election boards and try to convince them that…They need to make that rule and reconcile, of their own account and not wait for a state law. But it’s just common sense that the number of ballots cast should equal the number of voters who voted.
…. at the precinct level… the law covers the voter who goes to vote…We have a judge of elections…poll workers…. minority and a majority inspector…at the end of the day, they do reconcile. They print out the results…the number of voters, the number of ballots that were cast.
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:25:34:26 00:26:01:29 …. at the precinct level… the law covers the voter who goes to vote at the precinct level. We have a judge of elections there. We have poll workers, we have a minority and a majority inspector. And so at the end of the day, they do reconcile. They print out the results they have to do for the number of voters, the number of ballots that were cast.
And they have to sign…an affidavit…that [if] they cheated, and they find out afterwards they’re held …criminally liable. I don’t see that happening on the Mail-In ballots…I brought it up at at our [Lehigh County] election board. They were like…there’s really no rule for that and…they…were very ambiguous on it.
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:26:02:02 00:26:27:10 And they have to sign…an affidavit…that they cheated, and they find out afterwards they’re held liable…criminally liable. I don’t see that happening on the Mail-In ballots…I brought it up at at our, election board. They were like…there’s really no rule for that and…they…were very ambiguous on it.
I haven’t gotten any traction on that, but, that’s something we’re definitely going to be looking at going into this election …If we do a sampling, we do a 2% of the of the ballots cast out, and it’s supposed to be random…
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:26:27:12 00:26:58:09 I haven’t gotten any traction on that, but, that’s something we’re definitely going to be looking at going into this election …If we do a sampling, we do a 2% of the of the ballots cast out, and it’s supposed to be random…
The law dictates that it’s [audit] to be done manually, mechanical or electronics with a different machine that counted them the first time. …So it has to be manual or electronic. But in Pennsylvania
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:26:58:12 00:27:23:12 … the law dictates that it’s [audit] to be done manually, mechanical or electronics with a different machine that counted them the first time. …So it has to be manual or electronic. But in Pennsylvania
We have documentation to report in 2018 that the secretary state says …EBS 6201 software, with the DS 200 and DS 450 machines…we do use in Lehigh County… you must do a manual count. For that statistical analysis. What is your definition of manual labor?
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:27:23:12 00:27:50:24 …we have documentation to report in 2018 that the secretary state says …EBS 6201 software, with the DS 200 and DS 450 machines…we do use in Lehigh County… you must do a manual count. For that statistical analysis. What is your definition of manual labor?
…Manual to me means a hand-count of the ballots….the reason that’s important….is that you can’t use a machine …to verify another electronic machine. That’s not independent because they could both be run in the same software algorithm that is flipping votes …
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:27:57:17 00:28:30:07 …manual to me means a hand-count of the ballots….the reason that’s important….is that you can’t use a machine …to verify another electronic machine. That’s not independent because they could both be run in the same software algorithm that is flipping votes …
…What do you mean by that? Well, how does that happen?
Attorney Bob Rust 00:28:30:09 00:28:37:27 …What do you mean by that? Well, how does that happen?
Electronically flipping votes
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:28:37:29 00:28:42:11 …electronically flipping votes
Do you actually have experience with that?…
Attorney Bob Rust 00:28:42:11 00:28:52:12 …do you actually have experience with that?…
No…this was demonstrated to the, court just last week by an expert named Clay Parikh He’s a voting system tester and cybersecurity expert out of Huntsville, Alabama. And he demonstrated how to flip the votes. He added he had six lines of code to show how easy it is, and he just subtracted votes from one candidate and added to it to another.
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:28:52:15 00:29:25:19 … no…this was demonstrated to the, court just last week by an expert named Clay Parikh He’s a voting system tester and cybersecurity expert out of Huntsville, Alabama. And he demonstrated how to flip the votes. He added he had six lines of code to show how easy it is, and he just subtracted votes from one candidate and added to it to another.
This was… the example I used with Joe Biden and Donald Trump. .. he, …only needed six lines of code to do that. We actually had in our audit, an example…I put an affidavit …in a county called weir ?sp a county where the machines, added, 37 votes to, Joe Biden’s totals that they took away from Donald Trump’s when they conducted the Hand-Count audit.
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:29:25:19 00:29:58:11 …this was… the example I used with Joe Biden and Donald Trump. .. he, …only needed six lines of code to do that. We actually had in our audit, an example…I put an affidavit …in a county called weir ?sp a county where the machines, added, 37 votes to, Joe Biden’s totals that they took away from Donald Trump’s when they conducted the Hand-Count audit.
It proved that the voting system had, in fact, flipped, 37 votes. That’s not a lot of votes. But when you do that, percentage wise, it was greater than the margin of victory by which, Joe Biden allegedly won here in Georgia, over Donald Trump.
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:29:58:11 00:30:49:17 It proved that the voting system had, in fact, flipped, 37 votes. That’s not a lot of votes. But when you do that, percentage wise, it was greater than the margin of victory by which, Joe Biden allegedly won here in Georgia, over Donald Trump.
So that’s another example of how the audit, has shown that,…going back to your point, Joe… Georgia, we are required to audit …I mean a full hand-count, one race every two years, which is completely inadequate because it does not prove that the other races were, in fact, accurate, only proves that
So that’s another example of how the audit, has shown that,…going back to your point, Joe… Georgia, we are required to audit …I mean a full hand-count, one race every two years, which is completely inadequate because it does not prove that the other races were, in fact, accurate, only proves that
So that’s a problem…the whole risk limit audit, …is very time consuming… it doesn’t … work in Georgia because, even though we do it, the inventor of risk limited audits, Doctor Phil Stark …explained to the election officials…in writing that you can’t use his process to meaningfully audit a ballot marking device system.
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:30:49:17 00:31:21:22 at one race was accurate. So that’s a problem. And then the, whole risk limit in audit, issue is very time consuming. It’s not even it doesn’t even work in Georgia because, even though we do it, the inventor of risk limited audits, Doctor Phil Stark has already explained, to the election officials down here in writing that you can’t use his process to meaningfully audit a ballot marking device system.
So it doesn’t really work for any ballot marking device systems because you don’t have the original source of the voter intent….What the machine says that the voters said so. So they have no original source. ……it’s very time consuming to try to randomly sample ballots…
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:31:21:25 00:31:53:11 So it doesn’t really work for any ballot marking device systems because you don’t have the original source of the voter intent. Yeah, it’s only the machines. What the machine says that the voters said so. So they have no original source. So that that is, another major problem. But then from a practical perspective, it’s very time consuming to try to randomly sample ballots and then go and pull a certain one and that it takes an exorbitant amount of time.
It’s just easier to hand-count the race, and then you have a more provable result because… in a close race, with risk limiting audit (RLA) you’d have to audit all the ballots anyway. RLA only works for, races that are…not close…nobody really cares about those.
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:31:53:11 00:32:16:16 It’s just easier to hand-count the race, and then you have a more provable result because… in a close race, with risk limiting audit (RLA) you’d have to audit all the ballots anyway. RLA only works for, races that are, basically not not close, which nobody really cares about those.
The technique is oversold right now….now that people are applying it, they realize it’s not really working….
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:32:16:18 00:32:35:22 …the technique is oversold right now….now that people are applying it, they realize it’s not really working….
Like any good business knows that…you’re doing, quality assurance. You have to be statistical sampling for your products…that’s every company that manufactures anything or even a service that can be doing that… our government is not a business…and that’s a one of our major problem.
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:32:35:24 00:33:02:04 ….like any good business knows that…you’re doing, quality assurance. You have to be statistical sampling for your products…that’s every company that manufactures anything or even a service that can be doing that… our government is not a business…and that’s a one of our major problem.
So when you mentioned…the statistical sampling…this is the pushback I get… that…machines are more accurate than a human and, and making sure that they get the count right. It’s not about the accuracy of the count. It’s about the the legitimacy of the count
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:33:02:06 00:33:32:17 So when you mentioned…the statistical sampling…this is the pushback I get. Is that…machines are more accurate than a human and, and making sure that they get the count right. It’s not about the accuracy of the count. It’s about the the legitimacy of the count
Follow me here. I don’t care if the manual hand count is off by a couple, I mean, maybe the electronic one is off by a couple. Maybe not. Maybe that’s perfect based on the algorithm it used to do it. It should be perfect…but the percentage will still be very close. ..
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:33:32:19 00:33:54:19 Follow me here. I don’t care if the manual hand count is off by a couple, I mean, maybe the electronic one is off by a couple. Maybe not. Maybe that’s perfect based on the algorithm it used to do it. It should be perfect…but the percentage will still be very close. ..
You want to see a small sampling percentage. It should be…very close. It doesn’t have to be 100% exactly the same percentage number as what the machine had for for both those candidates. So if it’s… false then okay, then…it meets… the definition…it was correct.
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:33:54:21 00:34:17:15 …you want to see a small sampling percentage. It should be…very close. It doesn’t have to be 100% exactly the same percentage number as what the machine had for for both those candidates. So if it’s… false then okay, then…it meets… the definition…it was correct.
But that’s their argument…A human can never be a good as a computer. But that’s not the point…and yes, it could be if you got 2 or 3 people doing it and they’re doing it correctly, but you don’t have to be perfect. We saw this in the recount. Even in the recount in 2022, we had a very close race for, for the state Senate, in the US Senate with McCormick and, and Doctor Oz.
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:34:17:18 00:34:47:22 But that’s their argument…A human can never be a good as a computer. But that’s not the point…and yes, it could be if you got 2 or 3 people doing it and they’re doing it correctly, but you don’t have to be perfect. We saw this in the recount. Even in the recount in 2022, we had a very close race for, for the state Senate, in the US Senate with McCormick and, and Doctor Oz.
..They did a recount … for one of our Common Pleas Judges
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:34:47:24 00:35:11:19 …they did a recount … for one of our Common Pleas judges.
We did a recount for it, …And, the count wasn’t perfect. The recount was off, but it didn’t change anything… it’s not going to be a perfect recount but it gives you the percentages to show that.
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:35:11:24 00:35:34:00 We did a recount for it, …And, the count wasn’t perfect. The recount was off, but it didn’t change anything… it’s not going to be a perfect recount but it gives you the percentages to show that.
The machines were accurate enough…that’s what I’m dealing with them when they try to argue…
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:35:34:00 00:35:46:00…The machines were accurate enough…that’s what I’m dealing with them when they try to argue…
Well, let me…tell you a story that you can use for all of these people who claim that a machine recount is more accurate than hand count. So we had a race down here in 2022. It was a DeKalb County District two Commission primary. And… it was a three way race… four for a while.
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:35:46:03 00:36:15:15 Well, let me…tell you a story that you can use for all of these people who claim that a machine recount is more accurate than hand count. So we had a race down here in 2022. It was a DeKalb County District two Commission primary. And… it was a three way race… four for a while.
But the voting machines, declared the winners. And one of the candidates says, wait a minute, I didn’t get any votes in the precinct where I live with my family, who voted for me, and they said, there’s something…wrong. So she went to the county election official and they said, okay, we’ll rerun the machine
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:36:15:18 00:36:43:02 But the voting machines, declared the winners. And one of the candidates says, wait a minute, I didn’t get any votes in the precinct where I live with my family, who voted for me, and they said, there’s something…wrong. So she went to the county election official and they said, okay, we’ll rerun the machine count.
There’s something wrong. They ran the machine count. It produced the same result….. So they said, we’re going to have to hand count the results because there’s something wrong here…. they found out that she was shorted 3000 of her 4000 votes, 75%…about 1400 were given to one of her opponents, and another, 1800 were never counted at all.
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:36:43:02 00:37:16:11 There’s something wrong. They ran the machine count. It produced the same result….. So they said, we’re going to have to hand count the results because there’s something wrong here…. they found out that she was shorted 3000 of her 4000 votes, 75%…about 1400 were given to, one of her opponents, and another, 1800 were never counted at all.
…They so they ended up, certifying the Hand-Count as the only true and accurate, result of the election. As the machines totally fail. Now, I, I’m not aware of any hand count and the history of elections that had a 75% error, right. So if anybody is saying that a machine you can count better than a hand.
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:37:16:14 00:37:48:21 …They so they ended up, certifying the Hand-Count as the only true and accurate, result of the election. As the machines totally fail. Now, I, I’m not aware of any hand count and the history of elections that had a 75% error, right. So if anybody is saying that a machine you can count better than a hand.
…that is, rock solid proof that that is a false statement….we’ve left the world of academics, theory into reality….You have to have hand count. It’s the only provable way and transparent way for voters to know that the correct winners were actually selected, to serve, and office.
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:37:48:23 00:38:20:15 …that is, rock solid proof that that is a false statement….we’ve left the world of academics, theory into reality….You have to have hand count. It’s the only provable way and transparent way for voters to know that the correct winners were actually selected, to serve, and office.
that speaks for itself.
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:38:20:17 00:38:25:16 So that’s I think that speaks for itself.
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC: …I agree…when we’re dealing millions and millions…we have computers that can count quicker than we can, but not necessarily more accurately if there’s a flaw in the system. And so that’s the importance of doing a sampling by hand afterwards. And in order to, look for those errors.
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:38:27:20 00:38:49:28: …I agree…when we’re dealing millions and millions…we have computers that can count quicker than we can, but not necessarily more accurately if there’s a flaw in the system. And so that’s the importance of doing a sampling by hand afterwards. And in order to, look for those errors.
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC: So hopefully…the Republican Party in Pennsylvania will understand that as well as our election, boards… follow the true intent of what the audit is all about…
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:38:50:01 00:39:12:22 So hopefully…the, the Republican Party in Pennsylvania will understand that as well as our election, boards… follow the true intent of what the audit is all about…
Attorney Bob Rust 00:39:12:25 00:39:37:20 …it’s important, Garland, to understand that we’re going to use this not only with our listeners, but…Joe’s going to use it…to try to work through our own system in a proper manner to make corrections. And…we obviously want you to use it…to help you in what you’re doing.
Attorney Bob Rust: …it’s important, Garland, to understand that we’re going to use this not only with our listeners, but…Joe’s going to use it…to try to work through our own system in a proper manner to make corrections. And…we obviously want you to use it…to help you in what you’re doing…in Georgia,
Attorney Bob Rust 00:39:37:23 00:39:43:18 in Georgia, I just add the editorial comment because I think it’s important. Joe. Any other questions?
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC:…in Michigan…they charged, some election workers for fraud,
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:39:43:20 00:40:15:08 …in Michigan…they charged, some election workers for fraud, from the past primaries. Because four people who submitted a absentee ballot, then went in to vote in a precinct, and the people working the polls at that precinct did a great job saying, no, you’ve already voted according to our…pad here.
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC: …they demanded that they still the vote… and the election office…allowed…let them vote…they had already voted by mail….And then the election office realized…we’re there in the wrong?sp It’s like covering it up.
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:40:36:20 00:41:03:14 And that’s what got them all in trouble. So now there’s a, allegation, the lawsuit. Well, I mean, I criminal investigation going on against those people working at it, not the precinct there, but the elected office. So and the only reason why it got caught is because a small town city clerk noticed that the count was off,
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC: And that’s what got them all in trouble…. there’s …criminal investigation …not the precinct…but the elected office….only reason why it got caught is because a small town city clerk noticed that the count was off, not the election board certifiers …and that’s that’s our problem.
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:40:36:20 00:41:03:14 And that’s what got them all in trouble…. there’s …criminal investigation …not the precinct…but the elected office….only reason why it got caught is because a small town city clerk noticed that the count was off, not the election board certifiers …and that’s that’s our problem.
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC :…it should not come down to just a coincidence…This is ridiculous. That reconciliation… is is the most important part of a secure election….I do not have confidence…because of the disconnect between the absentee mail in ballots and going through the polls and voting.
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:41:03:14 00:41:31:17 …it should not come down to just a coincidence…This is ridiculous. That reconciliation… is is the most important part of a secure election….I do not have confidence…because of the disconnect between the absentee mail in ballots and going through the polls and voting.
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC: So, I hope we can…get some more traction on that. …
Joe Vichot, Chief LCRC 00:41:31:19 00:41:37:17 So, I hope we can…get some more traction on that. …
Attorney Bob Rust :…Garland… I’ve got, some of some questions…What’s your view of using electronic voting machines?
Attorney Bob Rust 00:41:37:17 00:42:08:00 …Garland… I’ve got, some of some questions…
Attorney Bob Rust 00:42:08:03 00:42:13:15 What’s your view of using electronic voting machines?
Attorney Garland Favorito: The problem is they’re not being used, properly, anywhere. And the first thing is…the lack of transparency of them…we are told … throughout the country,… Georgia, Pennsylvania, that we have to believe what the an electronic voting system tells us when we have no way to prove that.
Attorney Garland Favorito 00:42:13:17 00:42:43:27 The problem is they’re not being used, properly, anywhere. And the first thing is…the lack of transparency of them…we are told … throughout the country,… Georgia, Pennsylvania, that we have to believe what the an electronic voting system tells us when we have no way to prove that.
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Appendix
Halderman Security Analysis of Dominion ICX Ballot Marking Devices
Wisconsin Special Counsel Michael Gableman Second Interim Report – 3-1-22
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Bob Rust and Joe Vichot Interviews Georgia Attorney Garland Favorito: Transcript
